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Oh wow aion o___o..people were telling me about it >:…every mmorg is tempting me really!..oy oy oy.
omg. D: You are going to update your computer before FFXIV…. right!?! o.o
@Calaera
Yea lol… this rig is like really old, 2003 Decemnber :D but i never felt the need to upgrade, cuz u and i know, ffxi hates PC hardware
i plan to upgrade next year, with Diablo 3, Starcraft II and … FFXIV
Pair some SSD together, oh jesus that thing would be blazing fast XD XD
Seriously, before saying Aion is a grind game you should have played it more :\
I’m into lvl 23 and i haven’t done a single EXP grind session yet.
@Jowah
Well, if getting quest, slaying stuff then coming back to get numerical exp points, I still see it as a grind. A quest IMO is just a mask to grinding.
Again, I think it really depends where you’re coming from. When I started WoW, I didn’t think it’s a Grind killing exp mob for numerical exp points. I mean some are nice, delivering juice for exp, or escort for exp, but the underlying system still involves experience points, and whenever I see quest that involves killing, I already see it as.. “another grind quest”.
Unless you can exp from PvPing, which now WoW provides, now that’s a different type of “grind” :D
The feel I got from Aion is already too strong at lv8 in some anonymous server, I can’t really take it. I have a few more days but… I can’t force myself to login. I’m just soo immune to grinding/exp type MMO i guess.
FFXIV made it different, no NUMBER EXP. Though Guildleve is really just a mask to say “Quest/Raid/Mission”. At least the numerical part is gone :D
You get very little exp when you kill 1 opponent in Aion but they gives you A FUCKTON of Abyss points, which you use to get insanely good gear. (There’s a pair of shoes that are aion gaiters, yay speed :p)
If Aion xp is grind…what is XI one?
Killing the exact same mobs for 75 lvls (now it’s even worse due lvl synch) then you have to whore merits and shit…
Abyss points = Honor Points in WoW Classic. Gets you pretty good gear. The idea is same.
However, PvP in Aion isn’t in a controlled environment and could be unfair. WoW created Arena to make PvP in a fair environment, which rewards you Arena points for a FUCKTON of good gear, mounts (wings), and even a title for being the 0.5 top percentile for PvPing.
Exp in Aion is Grind, FFXI is Grind, hence I kinda stay away from leveling anymore jobs. I level Blue Mage with Tazo RL friend, and I Parry Skillup my Sam to 75. I just hate grinding. :/ I can’t tell myself to Grind a 3rd game.
See I wasn’t that far off! FFXI -> Aion, you’d find it interesting! XD
I can’t really get it. Real grind is…go try Ragnarok Online or the majority of MMOs.
Or have you played Lineage II? THAT’S GRINDING, not Aion.
PVP in Aion IS fair. You dont get any shit of AP if you are uber max rank and go kill a low lvl character, but only if you go for a kill of a person of higher/same pvp rank.
Well, my limit of Grind ended with WoW after FFXI. I had my grind in some of the parry skillup =)
I guess everyone’s definition of grinding and their tolerance is different. You can obviously take more grinding after FFXI. I can’t XD
I play Lineage, not the II, and that was a heart attack for me XD, to have a % pop an item out upon death LOL.
PvP in Aion could be more fair. What if 2 Same Rank people meet an opponent soloing (by himself) same Rank. For the sake of discussion, lets say everyone on the field is worth 100 point each (all same Rank), same PLAYER SKILL but we all know, 2 person will most likely beat a person up. So same level, same rank. But how is that fair?
So the opponent dies. Err… 50 point each? =) Still same rank same level :D The same problem also exists in WoW. They have diminishing return exponentially, still didn’t solve problem, so eventually they invented Arena points for the bestest item, and leave Abyss/Honor points for the okay PvP items.
You could also be “exping” killing a mob with half HP when someone come kill you. You could be equally balanced in skill and rank, but not environment. He was handicap So each get 50? or 25? Is there diminishing return? From what I read, points are equally distributed to their opponent. Well 2v1 isn’t that fair, just because he wasn’t lucky and bump into you in the field.
My previous post refer to “Controlled Environment”. An arena in WoW is a place where:
1. Everyone who engage in combat is 100% in it for PvP. (Hence, not killing an exp mob, 98%hp)
2. They are all equipped for PvP (you could wear damage gear, vs HP gear for pure PvP).
3. No outside interference (hence an EXTRA person come in to aid).
4. Landscape is symmetrical.
5. Gay item such as instant potion, elixirs, cracks and steam pack are disabled. So it is not a money/gil fight, to see who have the most elixirs.
So no, world PvP could be unfair. :D
If you go to abys you can’t complain if you getting ganked. You go to abyss FOR PVP and nothing else. If you are not prepared, QQ person, or hate pvp then just don’t go. Not getting killed in your own region on the other hand can be very easy since all NPCs are friendly (and usually high lvl) who can kill the intruder.
And yes, you will need to get proper pvp gear.
Items are instant use, but there is a huge delay for a second use (items of same kind share the same delay slot -if you use a low tier HP pot you can’t huse an higher tier right after-
I read the post again and…special ed wings you get at lvl 10? Wut? Not really, the wings you have are lvl30 ones. Which have to be equipped. At 30, 40, 50 you have a wing upgrade.
Then again i read Aion has TP…wut? I think i’ve missed that.
The original version of Aion. ;3
In all honesty, I haven’t seen anything terribly new and innovative about Aion that’s made me want to say “OMG, I need to play that *NOW*.” Everything I’ve seen or read about it (aside from Maiev’s “review” here), I can pretty much equate to things that currently exist in WoW at the moment. Granted, the one thing I’ve heard people absolutely rave about is the character creation interface, but that’s not really a selling point to drop 50 bucks plus another monthly fee on a game that’s pretty much the same as one I’m already playing.
Thought I’d donate my 2cents here. I played for a few months now on one of the Asian servers. Maiev has a point, it really depends on where we’re coming from. Aion isn’t a bad game. It’s just not as “next-gen” as I’d hope it to be. I waited for a very long time even since the first trailer; and hoped for something new besides everything out there. FFXI and WoW’s depth is unmatched in the MMO arena, honestly. While it’s not really fair to compare the two with AION, they’re a good benchmark as far as playability and fun.
MMO world has changed, and a lot of us are getting older/have RL stuff to do/have back pain etc…
AION is not bad for passing time for people(like me) who loved seeing stunning graphics and flexible game play style. But, after a few months of game play, I see tons of adjustments need to be made to take the game forward. When you step into 35+, you will start feeling more grind and more unfairness in the PVP system. It’s neither bad or good, just the system and game play design. So I’d say enjoy it when you have the extra bucks and time, it’s not bad. Just below my expectations; and that’s a very subjective thing, expectations.
@Jason
Thank you for your honest input. I have to say my lv6 assassin won’t really prove anything or deep enough to give a review, hence I kinda label it as a “thoughts about Aion”.
FFXI and WoW’s depth are yea, very well developed, but the graphics is what makes people determine if it’s a new or old game, which plays a big role in which MMO people play.
Although WoW kinda slide by the graphics contest by.. well WoW is a little cartoonish so it was kinda “okay” to keep it at that, but one thing is that WoW has really evolved over the years, from a PvP guard-farming ranking-based PvP to a more controlled PvP in both battleground and Arena.
All I can say is, give it a try. Everyone’s tolerance to grinding is different, and everyone’s enjoyment towards mmorpg in general are also different. I gave it a short try, I made an assumption early, but some stuff you really don’t need to play it full to understand it. Hence you see the edge of a building. I think its safe to assume jumping off is dangerous, you don’t have to goto the edge to find out.
Just Mai 2c
With collector�s edition wings at level 30 you get better looking wings that last 30~40 more seconds in flight time — which is pretty useful until you can actually afford 12mil wings.
Aion is awesome! Lvl 38 SM!
I am a level 36 SM on Triniel, and the game is not worth getting that into if you ask me.
I have determined I will wait for FF: XIV. Aion just leaves a lot to be desired. Fun for the initial go around, but once you get to higher levels, the heinous grind, rampant botting, RTMt, and non-functional abyss fort seiges are just not acceptable.
You love wow? GO PLAY RUNES OF MAGIC….its a total wow spin off…BUT w/ a duel class system. OH and ITS FREE>….unless you buy diamonds, which supports it continuin weekly updates…its an amazing game. AS FAR AS AION GOES…..I have been a WOW lover-ultimate fan for a long time…WRATH completely ruined wow, and the EMO words hurt me and make me bleed theme w/ most of teh players on both sides (horde and Gaylliance :) really makes me feel like im in a gd public school and have to watch how i act….BAH isn’t the whole point of playin games is to have fun and dick around? OH AND BTW>>>>WOW WASN”T A PERFECT GAME WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT>>>>>DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PATCHES/UPDATES/EXP. WOW HAS HAD? AND, IMO, WWWWWWWAAY TO MANY PATCHES to fix the balance that WOW can never seem to get right between and too many changes to actually really mess w/ the game. EVER HEARD THE TERM>>>SOMETIMES LESS IS MORE????OR YOU CAN RUIN A PAINTING BY ADDING TO MANY DETAILS??? well obviously blizzard has never heard any of those terms! Aion is a BRAND NEW>>>>and yes, americans are a bit more picky w/ our games, so the adjustments will happen. AND>>>>also, when people say “it needs this, or that” they always refer to something that THEY were familar and used to in WOW or other MMO….I can SOOOOO go on for days about AION’S pvp, but i will say one thing, AION isn’t based on SINGLE PLAYER VS PLAYER! ITS FAMOUS FOR GROUP PVP!
BASICALLY>>….ITS LIKE A MASSIVE GROUP GOIN TO A RAID BUT HAVING OPPOSITION FROM THE OTHER SIDE WHILE DOIN IT>>>>
You never have to worry about takin down a boss in an Instance in wow, and have to worry bout some Gaylliance crew commin to gank ya! BEFORE you start sayin WOW’s pvp IS BETTER….you better KNOW what kind of PVP your talkin about…..AND AS FOR YOU PRE-JUDGING THE GAME BY THE FIRST 6 LEVELS, is very ignorant imo. AION has gotten SOOOOO much better with EVERY LEVEL…..IM a 38 CLERIC on SIEL atm……and let me tell you, IM glad that all clerics have the same heals no matter what and that STONES or CHANTS or w/e don’t add + heals to shit….REASON???? NOW you can REALLY see who knows how to play a healer and not JUST get lucky leet heals by buying GOLD and gettin amazing gear/stats/stones and be very TERRIBAD and SLOW but can heal like a beast cause he’s soooo gear dependant….IN AION….let me tell you, You better know how to play your class. Ive seen so many HORRIBLE TRASH come from wow…but yet…in wow they were SOOOO AMAZING>….LOOK AT ME IN TEH ARMORY DUDE>>>>YA IM a MMO PRO—-lmao…then go run Fire Temple with us and can’t control AGGRO from DPS or GLADS AOE’in when CC’s in place…or SM’S GOING AFTER RANDOM MOB AGGIN everything in site. Im sorry….this game takes skill in PVP and PVE….RESIL. IS FOR PUS*Y’S! RESIL….DOESN”T measure skill….it just lets you resist/evade/block as a supplement to lack of skill……….SO…….COME ON…try to DEBATE ME>…i wll shut you DOWN MAIEV….I’m a MASTERDEBATER :O lmao ;)