{"id":357,"date":"2007-11-11T03:56:26","date_gmt":"2007-11-11T08:56:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/nfblog\/?p=357"},"modified":"2010-01-26T16:54:21","modified_gmt":"2010-01-26T21:54:21","slug":"interesting-read-on-enmity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/nfblog\/?p=357","title":{"rendered":"Enmity Research Revealed by Kaeko!"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"captionright\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/img\/kaeko2.png\" alt=\"Kaeko, Odin, FFXI, Enmity\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Kaeko&#8217;s Research on Enmity!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Interesting post about <a href=\"http:\/\/kanican.livejournal.com\/13235.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Enmity<\/a> from TK&#8217;s. I didn&#8217;t test it xD I just digested it ^^ Wish I had the effort to do amazing tests like these&#8230; but anyway.<\/p>\n<p>I went through their post, read it 2 times to make sure I completely understand it. I also read it to make sure it was correctly done ^^ and it is! Anyway, here&#8217;s a few conclusion they made about Enmity (merely Copy and Pasta)<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Getting attacked for 0 damage or evading an attack causes no enmity loss.<\/li>\n<li>Dodging an attack using Utsusemi Shadows does cause an enmity loss.<\/li>\n<li>Distance between 0&#8242;-20&#8242; relative to the mob at which an action is used does not affect enmity gained.<\/li>\n<li>The act of pulling (first action) causes an enmity gain for the puller.<\/li>\n<li>The other 6 spells decayed, but left 1 &#8220;unit&#8221; of non-decayed hate &#8211; we called this the <em>Base Unit of Hate<\/em><\/li>\n<li>An Action can produce both Cumulative and Volatile Enmity, but it MUST produce at least 1 CE<\/li>\n<li>Dispel produces 320 base units of non-decaying hate <--- Really good to know, in numbers!<\/li>\n<li>The Cumulative Enmity Cap is exactly 10,000 Cumulative Enmity<\/li>\n<li>Cumulative and Volatile Enmity act as seperate entities<\/li>\n<li>Zoning and Logging Off do not immediately &#8220;reset hate&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>These are all from <a href=\"http:\/\/kanican.livejournal.com\/13599.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kanican&#8217;s Blog<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>So lets digests this, more like&#8230; applying the concept&#8230; in our mind!<\/p>\n<p>1,2) Getting attack and taking 0 damage causes no enmity loss, hence taking damage or&#8230; maybe more damage causing larger enmity loss. &#038; the Utsu Patch! So this kinda means (pulling from my own experience)<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Hence explains why mob runs around, because once you take damage, your CE (Cumulative Enmity) lowers!<\/li>\n<li>Also explains why SE added enmity loss to Utsusemi. Since if you never take damage, you never loose Enmity.<\/li>\n<li>Also explains why Paladin are better in keeping hate. We know they are better but&#8230; one of the reason is, since they take less damage, they loose less Cumulative Enmity!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>3) Differences in distance gives different Enmity?<\/p>\n<p>They prove it no! I never really noticed it anyway, but they proved it ^^<\/p>\n<p>4) Puller gets bonus Enmity.<\/p>\n<p>We always knew it, but was never on hard numbers, the TK really did a good job in proving that. Explains why our party puller always seems to get hate so easily!<\/p>\n<p>5) Some spell produce Cumulative Enmity, others just Temporary (and looses over time)<\/p>\n<p>Really nicely done ^^ <\/p>\n<p>You can check out their Enmity table <a href=\"http:\/\/kanican.livejournal.com\/13848.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>6) All spell leaves at least 1 Cumulative Hate.<\/p>\n<p>This explains why mob kills the whole party\/ally when everyone else is dying! We all use the term &#8220;we are on its hate list&#8221;, but the technical term is.. &#8220;You might have loss all the Volatile (Temp) Enmity, but all actions generate 1 Cumluative Enmity&#8221;, suggesting you will always be hated, by 1 Enmity Unit!<\/p>\n<p>7) Dispel generates 320 units of Cumulative Enmity.<\/p>\n<p>Explains why RDM tank are possible, because Dispel generates an Enmity that doesn&#8217;t disappear overtime, but will only disappear through taking damage.<\/p>\n<p>8,9) All stuff have a cap, including Enmity in both CE and VE.<\/p>\n<p>This one I actually looked up in Wiki. The TK proved it that&#8230; you can reach 10,000 CE and can still take hate ^^ or juggle with it because Volatile Enmity is a separate thing!<\/p>\n<p>Hate = Cumulative Enmity + Volatile Enmity (taken from <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.ffxiclopedia.org\/wiki\/Enmity_Numbers\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wiki<\/a>), the person with higher total takes the aggro.<\/p>\n<p>10) Logging out or reset doesn&#8217;t reset hate!<\/p>\n<p>This gotta be nice to test! Maybe afterall, its because you haven&#8217;t done any action due to the time of logging out, you loose your Volatile Enmity. Its like standing around doing nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Combining the test from <a href=\"http:\/\/ff11wiki.rdy.jp\/-1450975598.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">JP Wiki<\/a> writing about <a href=\"http:\/\/wikiwiki.jp\/pld\/?%C5%A8%C2%D0%BF%B4%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6#x35a293e\" rel=\"nofollow\">Enmity + Article<\/a> and some NA Wiki, its safe to <em>assume<\/em> that.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Damage Taken is CE Loss, so a good tank would need to reduce damage taken, in order to prevent hate loss.<\/li>\n<li>The trick to understand is Hate = CE + VE, you might not have high CE but generating stuff from VE (eg constant Provoke), is nice to keep hate, since VE isn&#8217;t affected by Damage Taken, but only through time (60\/sec)<\/li>\n<li>Although not proven yet on TK, but on JP Wiki, each Enmity + is 1% more hate. Provoke with 10+ Enmity = Provoke 1.10<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Damn, can&#8217;t wait till their next Enmity research! But yea the above is simply putting it to practical use! Well&#8230; putting the thoughts together ^^<\/p>\n<p>Edit: I just saw <a href=\"http:\/\/kanican.livejournal.com\/14209.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part 4<\/a> (seriously, waiting for their results is like&#8230; waiting for next EP of Anime xD)<\/p>\n<p>They confirmed the&#8230; findings on EN Wiki, that VE looses hate at 60VE\/Sec. If a Provoke is 1800VE (like they tested), the VE of a Provoke fully wears out to 0 after 30sec, in which case you can Provoke again! This kinda make sense&#8230; when your tank AFK&#8217;s hate start going everywhere&#8230; especially if the tank doesn&#8217;t have enough CE.<\/p>\n<p>Thinking about how we let tank voke a few more times before engaging fafnir was pretty lame! All the hate was literally lost and the only thing we were doing was stacking CE with Flash (180CE)!<\/p>\n<p>TK also confirm the findings on JP Wiki above.<\/p>\n<p>Final CE = [Base CE] x { 1 + [Enmity Enhancement] \/ 100 }<\/p>\n<p>Although this is for Enmity +, but can pretty much assume it works the same for Enmity -! If it really works the way it is&#8230; and&#8230; taking damage is so far the only way to loose CE (probably more), then Enmity &#8211; bonus equipment really helps you out, especially in the long run to maintain a low CE.<\/p>\n<p>Wow&#8230; the game can dramatically change with this knowledge from em ^^<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kaeko&#8217;s Research on Enmity! Interesting post about Enmity from TK&#8217;s. I didn&#8217;t test it xD I just digested it ^^ Wish I had the effort to do amazing tests like these&#8230; but anyway. I went through their post, read it 2 times to make sure I completely understand it. I also read it to make [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[38],"tags":[642],"class_list":["post-357","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-final-fantasy-xi","tag-kaeko"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Enmity Research Revealed by Kaeko! - the StarOnion - FFXI Fenrir to FFXIV Excalibur<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/nfblog\/?p=357\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Maiev\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Maiev\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/765f24c8c43826a950220ed43e985153\"},\"headline\":\"Enmity Research Revealed by Kaeko!\",\"datePublished\":\"2007-11-11T08:56:26+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2010-01-26T21:54:21+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357\"},\"wordCount\":180,\"commentCount\":6,\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"http:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/img\\\/kaeko2.png\",\"keywords\":[\"kaeko\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Final Fantasy XI\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"CommentAction\",\"name\":\"Comment\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357#respond\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.staronion.com\\\/maiev\\\/nfblog\\\/?p=357\",\"name\":\"Enmity Research Revealed by Kaeko! 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