{"id":310,"date":"2007-08-27T16:14:52","date_gmt":"2007-08-27T21:14:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/staronion.com\/maiev\/nfblog\/?p=310"},"modified":"2010-01-25T15:36:13","modified_gmt":"2010-01-25T20:36:13","slug":"polearm-samurai-gimp-or-buff","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/nfblog\/?p=310","title":{"rendered":"Polearm Samurai, Gimp or Buff?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Edit: An update to this post is at the bottom of this entry.<\/p>\n<p>Yep, enough outparsing a lot of people :&lt; This will end today ; ;<\/p>\n<div class=\"captionright\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.staronion.com\/maiev\/img\/polearm_ends.jpg\" alt=\"Taru Samurai, Maiev of DuckHUNT on Fenrir, Polearm, Colibri, FFXI\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Exping in Polearm&#8230; now dead? ; ;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Penta Thrust Thought<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Adjustment to Penta Thrust:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211; Penta Thrust<br \/>\nDamage varies with TP &gt;&gt; Accuracy varies with TP<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Under normal weapon skill calculation, if TP doesn&#8217;t affect accuracy, you pretty much take your melee accuracy into consideration, so old method was&#8230; if I was meleeing with 75% acc, your Penta&#8217;s accuracy for all 5 hits would be around that percentage.<\/p>\n<p>This update&#8217;s adjustment is putting it sort of like &#8220;Sidewinder&#8221;, with &#8220;Accuracy varies with TP&#8221;, its attack modifier must be increased in order to compensate the lost in accuracy.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>What does it mean then? If attack is modified, that means at 100% TP, our weapon skill &#8220;should&#8221; be stronger than before. This kills the &#8220;Martial Polearm&#8221; instantly&#8230; unless you are having mad accuracy problem.<\/p>\n<p>Possibility: If attack modifier &#8220;was not&#8221; adjusted to compensate the tradeoff, then this update is a &#8220;gimp&#8221; to polearm users T.T<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand&#8230; SE added a new job trait &#8220;Accuracy Bonus&#8221; for Dragoon, so they might have adjusted so that 100% TP before is more accurate than 100TP new update, WITHOUT the trait, so they had to add it in to compensate it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Skewer Thought<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211; Skewer<br \/>\nAccuracy varies with TP &gt;&gt; Chance of critical hit varies with TP <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Although Mai Samurai can&#8217;t use Skewer (Dragoon exclusive), but from the look and with the &#8220;Accuracy Bonus&#8221; job trait, the weapon skill should now be more accurate, so therefore, the adjustment to Skewer is obviously a buff to increase Dragoon&#8217;s overall power.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How does it affect Samurai Polearm user like me?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It really depends afterall, if the attack modifier was adjusted since they made the TP modifier as accuracy. I don&#8217;t have accuracy problem at all, and was able to achieve 82% on Colibri without a bard song. (its not great, but 82% without a bard is pretty good).<\/p>\n<p>We don&#8217;t get the Dragoon Accuracy trait so&#8230; (they have it, so they can stack str gear respectively, or atk where applicable)<\/p>\n<p>If the attack modifier isn&#8217;t adjusted then Samurai who uses Polearm is going to experience some trouble!<\/p>\n<p>I still have all my parses and data, just need to party with a few others and see about the new changes. I&#8217;m a Samurai Polearm user! Still proud to be one ;)  (Proud enough to have 8 merits on Polearm!)<\/p>\n<p><strong>After Patch! <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Looks like accuracy of Penta Thrust was not gimped at all, the overall effect was amazing, people were doing 3k+ Penta Thrust now! (lol how Penta goes through 3 revisions).<\/p>\n<p>Unconfirmed Facts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>2 STR used to be 1 attack, after patch its 1 attack per strength<br \/>\nThis also applies to accuracy, which means 2 hand melee should be wearing DEX rings for TPing soon, since DEX also adds Crit chance.<\/li>\n<li>Over a course of 100 swings, 2% DA means you only need to swin 98 times to achieve the effect of 100 swings, whereas 3% delay in weapon means when someone swings 100 times, you only need to swing 97 times.\n<p>Hagen for example is 450 delay + Hasso (10%) + Turban\/Swift Belt (9%) \/ Typical Gear<br \/>\n450*.81=364.5, with a 3% delay calculated based on 450 weapon delay is 13.5<\/p>\n<p>13.5\/364.5 is aorund <strong>3.7%<\/strong> more haste, equilvalent to weapons.<\/p>\n<p>You would equip -3% weapon delay over DA. If this holds true.<\/li>\n<li>Penta Thrust&#8217; Modifier was not gimped at all, if all holds true above, STR build for 2 handed weapon is a viable option, except probably be Skewer, where TP modifier is now Crit chance, and you kinda want to stack DEX too.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These are all facts I&#8217;ve read on forums, I&#8217;ll come back in a day and go find more!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Edit: An update to this post is at the bottom of this entry. 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